The Book of Daniel Sealed Up Until The Time of the End and the 70th Week Tribulation Period

The book of Daniel is/was sealed up UNTIL knowledge is increased and people run to and fro… Daniel 12:4,10.
The gap theory between 69th and 70th week is hundreds of years old when horse and buggy was still the norm for travel, and it took a century for knowledge to double. Today knowledge doubles in 2 years, and we travel to and fro by every means possible. As you can see the book of Daniel was still sealed up when the gap theory was invented.
Today the 70th week is totally fulfilled. Titus made a covenant with the Roman Empire to squelch the Jewish rebellion in 66 AD. This started a 7 year war (one week) ending with the fall of Masada in 73 AD. This war is called the Roman-Jewish War or Jewish Uprising. In the middle of that week/war Jerusalem was decimated and the temple destroyed ENDING the daily sacrifices and offerings. They are ended today. There is no Scripture to indicate that they will ever return.
As a result of the assumption and speculation surrounding Daniel’s 70th week we have the false unscriptural idea that the great tribulation is a 7 year period of time. We have the false idea that there is a mid point in the great tribulation in which the temple will again be destroyed and the daily sacrifices will again end. There is absolutely no Scripture to support this idea. Today the temple does not exist. Today the temple is not built with hands, and God’s people are the temple of the Holy Spirit. A physical temple may or may not ever be rebuilt. There is a temple that is measured in Revelation, but it’s nature of physical verse spiritual is not indicated. Not to mention… it appears to have been measured in heaven.
Surrounding the nature of the destruction of the temple, Jesus warns, “Let no man deceive you.” Matt. 24, Mark 13, Luke 21. Yet today we have a HUGE assumption, speculation, opinion, and conjecture mainstream thought that Daniel’s 70th week is somehow futuristic with a huge gap of time and no Scriptural support of the idea.
The idea is important for those pushing a separation of the Jews and the church into two bodies of Christ Jesus. This is contrary to the Word of God…Eph 2:10-15, not to mention that there is only one body in Christ Jesus. The unpleasant tribulation gets pushed off on the Jews and the pleasant rose colored ideas are grabbed for themselves, such as the rapture. The truth often hurts, and any ideas that might cause a little pain and discomfort are rejected. Note the sole characteristic of the “stony” soil in the parable of the sower… it has the lack of mindset for tribulation and persecution..Mar, 4:18. They simply didn’t sign up for that!
What is truly amazing is that this false gap of time between the 69th and 70th week is foundational in major doctrines. How interesting that such major doctrines are built upon assumptions that cause divisions in the body of Christ. We are told to avoid such speculations…1 Tim. 2:23.

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Is Salvation a Fundamental Issue attached to your view of Eschatology?

The matter of salvation is at the foundation of the rub that lies between the different views. The statement that “It does not matter…” defines you as a pre-tribber. The Pre-tribbers tell us it doesn’t matter what your view is in light of eschatology (the study of the end times). They tell us that it is a totally separate issue from salvation. If the pre-trib view is correct, then their statement is also has an element of truth.

However, if the Post-trib (and others) position is correct and Jesus comes at the end rather than the beginning, your statement is totally false. Their view is totally related to salvation. Often the pre-tribber is unaware of this fact, because of the pre-trib lenses that they wear.

You see, Jesus tells us the “parable of the sower.” A parable about salvation. In it there is different soils represented. The soils represent man’s heart. The fertile soil is the favorable soil, and in fact the only soil that makes it to heaven. It lacks the traits of the other soils that keep them from heaven. One soil in particular stands out. It is the stony soil, when persecution and tribulation come they immediately stumble and fall away… Mark 4:18. Obviously, this would be catastrophic for a pre-tribber to believe they wouldn’t have to endure the tribulation, just to be confronted with a new paradigm.

The parable of the 10 virgins also tells the story… Only 5 of the 10 have the oil to endure till the end. The other five are told, “depart from me I never knew you.”

When the Red Curtain fell in China and tribulation and persecution hit hard there, the pastors and leaders who once taught the pre-trib doctrine to their flock, saw many quickly turn from their faith as Jesus promised in Mark 4:18. Afterward, the had deep regrets that they hadn’t taught them to prepare for the promised tribulation and persecution that is assigned to all Christians…John 16:33, 2 Tim 3:12.

For a post-tribber to present their view to a pre-tribber, it is evangelistic in nature for them.

Peter tells of the importance of your getting it right concerning your view of eschatology.  In 2 Peter 3:10-16 he informs us that those who don’t get it right, “twist the Scriptures as they always do.”  NKJV   If that is the case it makes eschatology into a fundamental view.  Foundational concerning ALL of the Word.  Interesting to note in this passage that Peter who teaches “second coming” to the church tells us that it is Paul’s teachings that get twisted.  We know that the Pre-trib view IS the view that is derived from Paul’s teachings.  If Peter is not speaking of the Pre-trib view, then who?   Something to consider….

The Bible tells the Timing of the Rapture

Although the Bible tells us that no man knows the day or the hour… Matt. 24:36 and that Jesus will come as a thief in the night…Matt. 24:42,43, 2 Thess. 5:2, 2 Peter 3:10, Rev. 16:15.  The Scripture also gives a very big clue and tells us when.  In 1 Cor. 15:51,52 Paul tells us that it is “at the last trumpet”
[51] Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
[52] In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed

Often this fact doesn’t fit several doctrines so those who believe those doctrines immediately dismiss this fact.  However, Rev. 10:7 and 1 Cor. 15:52 are the only two verses in Scripture that discuss the revealed mystery at the last trumpet. Take a look at Rev. 10:5-7

[5] And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven

[6] And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
[7] But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Now lets take the actual event of the last trumpet:   Rev. 11

[15] And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
[16] And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
[17] Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
[18] And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
[19] And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail

Take a look at some of the list of happens at the last trumpet..

1)  Time is no more…. Rev. 10:6

2)  The kingdoms of the world are become the kingdoms of Christ… Rev. 11:15

3)  Christ rules forevermore… Rev. 11:15

4)  Not only does Christ have the power….  He uses it… He HAS reigned at this moment in time/7th trumpet!   Rev. 11:17

5)  God pours out His wrath on the dead… Rev.11:18

6)  He rewards His people (see list)… Rev. 11:18

7)  People can no longer destroy the earth… Rev. 11:18

8)  The rapture…. at the last trumpet…. 1 Cor 15:52

9)  The mystery of God is finished… Rev. 10:6

Notice that Christ rewards His people… Point number 6….  At this point the reward is given out

Rev. 22:12

And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be

Rev. 22:12 implies that the reward is handed out at the time of His return.

Could the fact that God wrath is poured out on the dead mean anything different than putting them into an eternal Hell?

Digging still deeper into the Word.  Rev 10 tells us that John eats the scroll or little book that gives him a bitter stomach.  Is this not the climax of the chapter?  This brings about the result of God giving him another word to release to the people…  Rev. 10:11

[11] And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings

John wrote the Book of Revelation in his 90s if he were relatively the same age as Jesus.  Some say it was written in 92 Ad others 95 during his exile to the island of Patmos when he recorded it.  It is believed that he was released and lived the remainder of his days in Ephesus where he completed the finished copies of Revelation and John.

So the question is when did he prophesy AGAIN.  John isn’t known historically as a prophet.  He is known as John the revelator because of the book of Revelations.

The obvious conclusion is that the seventh trumpet is the END of the first prophesy.  The angel had declared that “time is no longer” at the last trumpet just prior to giving John the little book,  You simply cannot have the big long list of accomplished events such as Christ ruling and reigning forevermore and then events in the next prophesy such as the antichrist reigning a couple of chapters later and think that the events are sequential.  The fact is that the first prophesy is finished at the 7th trumpet, and John is about to prophesy again.

In Rev. 12 the second prophesy begins and it is sequential through chapter 16.   Note the absence of any angel leading John through this passage.  The absence would would give opportunity for the presentation of the little book’s second prophesy.  Chapter 17 and 18 are explanatory chapters of that prophesy where the angel returns to explain them.

There must be two prophesies, because that would be the only way for the angel to swear correctly, and for Christ to rule and reign forevermore.  The the second prophesy is complementary of the first.  Therefore the trumpets and the vials/bowls are one in the same.   Note the announcement of the Rapture right before the 7the vial/bowl….

Rev. 16:15  Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame

Here again we have doctrines that dismiss this verse or tell us it is misplaced, but is it?  If the trumpets and the bowls are one in the same, this placement of this verse absolutely complements the fact that Jesus comes at the last (7th) trumpet.

Pretrib doctrine is Foundationaly built on Speculation of obscure passages part 1

I find it fascinating that a pre-trib doctrine believer actually believes that some prophesies are fulfilled. After all the most obvious fulfillment is the one where the daily sacrifices have ended, and pretribbers see it as futuristic. The Jews know when these sacrifices ended, the rest of the world knows that the Jews have never continued to resume the daily sacrifices, and yet pre-tribbers place this prophesy in the future. Interesting…

Titus who made a covenant with the Roman Empire started his quest in 66 AD to squelch the Jewish rebellion. After 3.5 years his quest ended by the decimation of the temple in Jerusalem. Thus ending the daily sacrifices and leaving Jerusalem desolate. This happened in chronological order of Daniel’s prophesy of the 70 weeks. Right after the Messiah was cut off by not for Himself, thus fulfilling Daniel’s 70th week to a T… YET…the pretribber tells us that there is a mysterious 2000 yr +/- gap between the 69th and 70 week. Just so that the Great Tribulation can be a 7 yr period, and so they can falsely separate the Jewish program from the church. What do they do with the daily sacrifices being obviously cut off? They tell us that the Temple is going to be rebuilt and the daily sacrifices again restored…. YET… the whole of Scripture NEVER gives any indication of that. In fact this thinking is brought about by a single verse…. Daniel’s 70th week which Titus clearly fulfilled in a timely manor.

This single verse that is falsely interpreted by the pretrib doctrine is the Foundation of the pretrib doctrine. Without it you have no 7 year tribulation period, no temple rebuilt, no mid-tribulation 3.5 year timeline, no end of the daily sacrifices, and the like. ONE SINGLE VERSE, and NO SUPPORTING VERSES to support it. The entire doctrine is built on such speculation of obscure passages that don’t support the doctrine. Sad part is that pretribbers want it to work so badly for them that they forsake the truth just to make it work for them. It is extremely sad the deception that they have brought upon themselves because they fail to love the truth… 2 Thess. 2:11,12