Separating the Rapture from the Second Coming

A post tribber was having a conversation with a pretribber.  The post states to the pre, “I’m going golfing next week on Tuesday.”  The pre responds, “Is that the first Tuesday or the second Tuesday next week?”  The post states, “What?  What do you mean by that?” The pre responds, “Well the first Tuesday of the week we call the rapture, and the second Tuesday we call the second coming.”  The post responds, “That sounds a little schizophrenic to me.  How do you come up with that?”   The pre replies, “Well the first Tuesday is the day of the Lord and the second is the day of Christ.”  Again the post replies, “Say what?  Christ is the Lord!  There is no difference.”

I’ve been amazed at how the pre-trib camp has attempted to separate the singular event of the rapture/second coming.  The very word “rapture” isn’t in the Bible, yet it was conjured up as an attempt to bring a separation in the event.  They make these big long list or charts to attempt to explain the difference.  Some reasonings are all out lies.  For example:  We are told that at the second coming Jesus doesn’t meet us in the air, but heads strait for the Mount of Olives.  However, Matt. 24:29-31 which is a known as a second coming Scripture, informs us that Jesus comes in the clouds and gathers His own.  So then the argument must then separate the clouds (Matt 24:29-31) from the air (1 Thess. 4:16,17).  That has no more argument than attempting to separate ‘the day of the Lord’ from ‘the day of Christ’.  Both are the same.  We are told that at the second coming Christ’s own are gathered, but at the rapture, we simple meet Him in the air.  However, 2 Thess. 2:1 defines the rapture as being “gathered together with Him…”  In the end no distinction can be made.  Yet this is the very foundation of the pretrib belief.

For further proof see the posts concerning 2 events of “like a thief…”

Nagging question to Pretribbers…

When you die, if you have a personal relationship with Christ, your spiritual body goes to heaven.  Paul tells us that to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord… 2 Cor. 5:8.  So since Jesus informed His disciples that He goes to heaven to prepare a place for them, there has been myriads of believers who have died and gone on before.  They are indeed with Christ, living the glorified life in heaven.  Some have been there for thousands of years (earth time).  Yet at the rapture their Earthly corrupted rotted bodies will be raised incorruptible… 1 Cor. 15:51-54.   So the BIG question is:  Why all of a sudden do they need an Earth suit that cannot rot?  Unless, of course, they are coming to live on Earth with Christ for 1000 years.  Paul tells us that the dead get incorruptible bodies, and that the raptured get immortal bodies.  This is the same type of body that Adam and Eve had prior to the fall.  The Scripture tells us that, “By one man’s sin death entered into the World…”  Prior to that Adam and Eve had immortal bodies.  By sinning they put on mortality.  So that fact is that the raptured, and the dead in Christ are putting on Earth suits suitable for living on Earth during the millennium, not for returning to heaven as many suppose.