1 Cor. 15;51,52 The Last Trumpet Has a lot of Depth

Often those who don’t believe in the pretrib view point at the last trumpet  in 1 Cor. 15:51,52, and say, “Look God tells us exactly when the rapture is.”  Those who believe in the pretrib view look at the last trumpet and say, “that could mean anything, there are a lot of last trumpets”.

The last trumpet issue isn’t just a surface, flippant reference.  There is a lot to it.   Let’s take a look:

Paul tells us when the rapture (1 Thess. 4:17 catching up) takes place (1 Thess 5:3, as a thief in the night).  Peter tells us when it takes place in the timeline (2 Peter 3:10, as a thief in the night).  Paul also tells us when the rapture takes place 1 Cor. 15:51,52.  “I tell you a mystery… at the last trumpet.”  John writes in Rev. 10:7, when the seventh trumpet is sounded, “the mystery of God will be finished, as He as declared to His servants the prophets.”  this is the only time that the word mystery is used in light of end time events in the New Testament. But it doesn’t end there…

At the last trumpet, the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our God, and He rules and reigns forevermore Rev. 11.  this is the end of the first prophesy that John was told about when he was told he would ‘prophesy again’… Rev. 10:11.  The first prophesy ends at the end of chapter 11.  You can’t have Jesus ruling and reigning forevermore and then the beast ruling in the next chapters.  There are two separate prophesies.  Let’s look deeper.   Have you had the pleasure of seeing the documentary video called, “The star of Bethlehem”?  It’s a very popular around Christmas and is shown in many denominations.  It is a well done video concerning the star and shows the signs in the heavens and how the wise men followed the star and knew what to look for.  Although it is exclusively about the star of Bethlehem, (you can get it on amazon for around 6-10 bucks).  It shows that the sign in the heaven Rev. 12:1 is one in the same as the star of Bethlehem.  The woman clothed in the sun with the moon at her feet… The second prophesy that John writes in Rev (Rev. 12-16). is an overlay of the first  (Rev. 6-11).  It give us the exact beginning, the star of Bethlehem.  These signs in the heavens do not repeat themselves unless you actually believe the Earth is millions and millions of years old.  So to understand the overlay of the two prophesies the trumpets and bowls are one in the same.  Yes one gives amounts concerning an event, and the other just lists the event, but overlay them and you will see the similarities.  The 5th seal martyrs are one in the same as those who don’t take the mark of the beast.  You can now see the clear separation between the judgments (trumpet and bowl) commonly thought of as the wrath of God and the tribulation (wrath of man).  This clear distinction also brings light and clarifies the confusion that the great tribulation and God’s wrath cannot be one in the same.

So in understanding this we understand that the trumpets and the bowls are one in the same and that the last trumpet in not in the middle, but the end, we see the exact same placement of the rapture declared by Paul;  at the last trumpet, and at the last bowl, Rev. 16:15 “I come as a thief”.  So you see, “at the last trumpet which is the 7th trumpet is the rapture and it’s not the only verse that declares it.  We see this declared In Rev. 16:15 at the parallel sister prophesy of the bowls, “I come as a thief…” at the same timing.  Even if 1 Cor. 15:51,52 hadn’t declared the timing of the mystery of the last trumpet, the bowls prophesy declares the exact timing anyways.



  1. While I agree with much of your interpretation, I would suggest that your are pushing the “rapture” event too far along on the timeline. If we are not appointed to wrath (1 Th 5:9-10), and Christ rescues us from the coming wrath (1 Th 1:10), then it seems that when the wrath comes (Rev 6:17) at the end of the tribulation/trouble, we should be rescued . . . the “rapture”. This demands that the trumpets/bowls be regarded as temporal expressions of God’s wrath. Study the effect of the “salpigx” (trumpet) from Numbers 10. I see the rapture in Rev 7 (“those coming out of the tribulation”), but also in the harvest of Rev 14, and the marriage supper of Rev 19 . . . all of which are followed by temporal expressions of wrath.


  2. Thanks Bubba for your comment. You point out several issues that I’ve addressed on other posts:

    I’ve answered you reference to God’s wrath on the post:


    Those who are coming out of the tribulation on the post:


    Concerning the marriage supper of Rev. 19 it is important to note that the bride has made herself ready. How does the bride make herself ready? Paul tells us in 1 Thess.3:12,13. She makes herself ready on Earth so that she is presentable to the Father when Jesus comes with all of His saints who have gone on before. I’m not making that up… READ THE VERSES! Note: 1 Thess. 4 where it tell us that the dead in Christ will rise first, and those of us who REMAIN…. The dead in Christ are the saints who return with Christ when he comes with all of His saints to get His bride. The righteous acts that the bride does is not acts she does in heaven, but on earth. Righteous acts and Faith can only be walked out on Earth. In heaven they are rewarded because of their completion. The bride of Christ can only be made ready on Earth.

    Concerning the placement of the rapture… I don’t place it, conjure it, or assume it’s placement. The Word tells us where it is Rev. 16:15:

    Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

    Obviously, Jesus is STILL coming like a thief for those who are watching and keeping there garments white. Many virgins who were watching in the parable (Matt. 25) didn’t make it to the end. They didn’t have the oil to make the distance… totally unprepared. They thought it would have taken as long as it did, and that the bridegroom would have got there earlier. Unfortunately that sounds just like my pretrib friends. Surely, Jesus didn’t put the rapture that far along in the timeline! Jesus tells us that those who are unprepared for tribulation and persecution will immediately stumble… Mark 4:17.

    I realize it messes with those who cannot see God’s protection or an eternal perspective of God’s wrath. Truly tribulation is a purifying and trying time Rom. 5:3. This is why we are told to always pray to be counted worthy to escape each and every terrible thing that is coming (Luke 21:36). If we don’t understand that we are not going to be praying in a manor that will pull us through.


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